Monday, April 23, 2007

Moses/Exodus

The main modern dates given for the exodus are:
(a) the orthodox date of 19th or 18th dyn; and/or
(b) the most popular alternative date of Velikovsky/Rohl of the 13th (or 12th?) dyn.

The extant ancient scholars dates for the exodus are:
- Manetho's of 18th dyn (Tethmosis) and/or of 19th dyn (Amenophis/Ethiopia/Osarsiph/Heliopolis);
- Cheremon's of 19th dyn (Amenophis/Phritiphantes/(Isis)/Tisithen/Peteseph);
- Lysimachus'/Tacitus' of [23/24/25] dyn (Bocchoris);
- Artapanus of ? dyn (Memphite/Chenephres/Palmanothes);
- Jashar of ? dyn (Melol/Adikam);
- Polemo of ? dyn (Apis son of Pharonaeus);
- Koran of ? dyn (Haman); and
- Josephus' of ? dyn (Thermuthis/Tharbis/Ethiopia).
(Refs: Josephus, [Massey, Fitzgerald-Lee].)

Chenephres:
- The (?corrupt/mixed) classical/church fathers tradition (of Artapanus) that associates [an] exodus with a king Chenephres says he was Memphite (dyns (1 &) 3-8);
- Rohl mis-equates him with 13th dyn (Sec Int Per, Thebes/Itj-tawy);
- There were kings called Chenephres in 5th, 6th and 7th/8th (Memphite) dyns (Carpenter, Bey);
- A another kig of 9th dyn was Kaneferre (a famine in his reign);
- a 6th dyn pyramid name Kha-nefer;
- a place Kanefer in Sinuhe story (Amenemhat, Mercatante);
- Pyramid of Amenemhet 1 called Ka-nefer (Bey);
- Memphis was also/alt called Kha-nefer (Bey);
- (some would add Chephren).

Various traditions (either genuine/accurate or corrupt/mixed) reackon that Pharaoh's daughter, Moses' adopted mother (found Moses) was called Merr(his) or Thematis or Bathia/Bithiah (cf 1 Chron 4:17); and that Moses' Ethiopian wife was called Tharvis/Adonaih?

Ancient scholars variously claimed Moses was connected with Osarsiph of Heliopolis, Tisithen, Thoth. (Freud ([Osman or Salibi]) identified Moses with (a follower of) Akhenaten.)

Osarsiph:
- The corrupt/composite tradition identifies Moses in nature with Osarsiph;
- Osar-siph is said to compare with Jo-seph in name;
- Osarsiph story corresponds in nature with that of A(a)r(u)su/Irsu of inscriptions about 19th-20th dyn, (name "a corruption of");
- Osarsiph may be Se-Osiris?

The modern 19th dyn theory was based in partly on the name Ramses, and on the traditional exodus of Amenophis (Merneptah). The mention of name Israel in Palestine on Merneptah stele is one known problem with this theory/dating.

If Raamses is Pi-Ramses-Meri-Amun (anachronism) then why didn't they include the Pi- since they did with Pithom (and also with Pathros/Atur-res and perhaps Buto/Put)? (also Rameses spelt different, plus also "land of" not just city.)

There are pharaohs/persons with name Ramses before 19th dyn in some other ancient/mediaeval/modern king lists published by Herman Hoeh. (Compare Remus (Rome), Rimush (Akkad).)

3/4 proposed etymologies/derivations of name Moses:
Hebrew moseh/masah "to draw out";
Egyptian msw "to be born", mesu "child, son";
Egyptian mou "water" + eses/uses "(those who are) saved (from)";
(Sumerian mus "serpent").

Wehem-meswet (12th dyn), Mer-mesha (13th dyn), Dudimose (13 dyn), Ka-mose (17 dyn), Ah-mose (18th dyn), Tuth-mosis (18 dyn), Ra-mose (18 dyn?), Sagaz-mesh (18 dyn), Ra-messes (19th-20th dyns), Amen-messes (19 dyn), (Ptah-)Messu (19 dyn), Pa-ra-messu (19 dyn?).

[The DSS and] Psalm 78:43 mention Tanis in connection with Hebrews in Egypt (compare Jashar).

Some Xtian scholars believe the Pharaoh of Exodus was an Assyrian quoting some biblical verse(s) some where.

The new king that didn't know Joseph could be a new/different period or dynasty or "race" (Horus/Set) or capital/origin.

Could the 80 yrs Horus vs Set poss be related to the 80 yrs of Moses in exodus 1-14?

Also/alt, king Pepy/Phiops (6th) dynasty was a centenarian like Joseph & Moses.

melol/adikam ("bk of Jashar") & pepy (6th dyn) have in common 94 yrs, dwarf/pygmy, (tanis?)

The new king that didn't know Joseph/the Pharaoh of the massacre of babies could have reigned anywhere between ca 40 yrs ("after Moses was grown") upto 80 yrs (poss (not) longer?) The pharaoh drowned in red sea could have reigned anywhere between 1/(0) yr(s) upto ca 40 yrs.

In Exodus the Hebrews slaves made bricks (not stones). In Egyptian history brick buildings/monuments were particularly prevalent/prolific in the [1st intmed per to] mid kdm per (see P Clayton, Bey).

If Goshen/Ramses/Pithom were in ne/lower Egypt as most commonly held then Moses can only have been in dyns 1, 3-8 or (12-)14-16. However this is only if one only goes by the royal capitals/centers/homes of the dynasties and not all the other cities/sites assoc with them. Baby Moses' hidding/(birth?) place must have been near pharaoh's daughter's palace, otherwise it would be like princess of Buckingham palace finding a baby in the river Trent.

No Nile river crossing mentioned in exodus.

Mention of "12 wells" or "reservior of 12 perches in a wood" in 11th dyn might be the "12 springs" (& 70 palms) of Elim of exodus?

Judaeo-Xtian vers: Moses parts/Israel crosses Red Sea (is said other countries heard of it).
Phoenician vers: Baal versus Yamm (&/or = Flood).
Egyptian vers: [Typhon in Serbonis (Arish).] The magician Zazamankh parted lake/placed one half on other. (Compare Achthoes eaten (&/or Menes devoured) by a crocodile???)

Candidates for pharaoh perished in Red sea incld:
- Mentuhotep 3, tomb/sarcophagus never found.
- Cheops empty "sarcophagus" (grt pyr) [but prob underneath pyr (Herodotus), or overseas?]
- No mummy or coffin has been found for the last Pharaoh of the 13th Dynasty, Koncharis.
- Amenemhet 4 no definately ascribed/known burial/pyramid.
- "Sesostris' mummy never found. (His grave had been ranscaked)" (I Lissner.)

Some believe the Ipuwer Papyrus parallels the 10 plagues, and/or the Sinaitic inscriptions parallel verses of exodus wanderings.

The story of Sinuhe is similar to flight of Moses, and name like Sinai?
The tale of 2 brothers Anpu vs Bata has similarity to Moses slaying the Egyptian.

"Bedstead" of giant Og of Bashan = megalithic.
Amorite Bashan poss equals Amorite Jebel Bishri (compare king Labasher of Uruk 1)?
Could "the haq of the land of Abesha/Abishai/Abushar" (Aamu) of the well-known Khnumhotep pictures be related to Og of Bashan (Amorite)? [Other candidates for Abishai/Abushar are Abisare of Larsa, Abieshu of Babylon 1.]

The slaying of the *"chosen"* or "1st born" parallels Pharaoh's slaying of children of Israel.

Candidates for slain 1st born of Pharaoh might be:
- Amenemhet 4 presumed died prematurely. Dyn 12 ends with Queen.
(Perhaps compare "who has overcome death" of Khnumhotep inscription?)

Exodus was a flight as opposed to (Hyksos) expulsion.

Judaeo-Xtian versions: Pharaoh slaughters male babies (Moses). Herod slaughter of innocents (Jesus).
Greek version: Kronos swallows children (Zeus).

At Kahun were found wooden boxes containing babies, under floors of houses (ref F Petrie/D Down). [Tho Exodus says babies were thrown into Nile river. Perhaps were fed to crocodiles hence Sobek of 12th dyn?]

Judaeo-Xtian version: Moses saved from water (Nile).
-> Roman: Romulus & Remus saved from water (Tiber) (Pears/Cook).
-> Akkadian: Sargon 1 saved from water (Hancock).
-> Egypt: Hancock sees parallel with rescue of Osiris coffin from water.

Moses lawgiver/laws similar to Hammurabi lawgiver/laws.
Judaeo-Xtian Moses lawgiver.
Babylonian Hammurabi lawgiver.
Greek/Cretan Minos lawgiver. Draco lawgiver. Lycurgus lawgiver.
Egyptian: Menes 1st lawgiver (Brugsch-Bey).
Indian code of Manu.

Could the "stor(ag)e/treasure places/cities" (Raamses, Pithom) of Exodus 1 be connected with the Labyrinth near lake Moeris? (Tho Herodotus also alt mentions treasury of Rhampsinitis.)

(Kahun was "suddenly abandoned".)

Pectoral of queen Mereret (Amenemhet 3) possibly seems to show slave workers?

Pi-thom (Pi-Tum/Pa-Tmu &/or Per-Atum) could be from either:
- a Pharaoh (Tawi-Thom ("Typhon"), Amun-timaeus, Thamus, Teutamus, Tutimaeus/Timaus, Dudimose, etc); or
- the god Atum; or
- tham/thomas "two/twin/demi", compare Egyptian taui (cognate with English) "two" as in Itj-tawi, Tawi-Thom, Ros-tau, etc.
(Pithom similar to P-ium/Faiyum tho almost certainly not same.)
Pithom is probably the "Arabian" town Patumus between Bubastis and Red sea mentioned in Herodotus. (Lower Egypt was called Patomit.)
Alt/also, temple of (Ra-)Atum at Heliopolis (Kheper-ka-ra Senusret 1). "Huge quantities of ... stores ... were found in Sesostris' funerary temple" (I Lissner).

"Moses" on the ass in the temple (compare Typhon on ass) was really prophetic for Jesus on donkey colt (which may be type of 144000 (Israel) of Revelation?).

Abraham ~ Uenephes/Semenptah (1st dyn) :
- (famine -> plagues);
Jacob ~ Nynetjer/Necherophes (2nd dyn) :
- (Shechem ~ Shem-Re????, "terror");
Joseph ~ (betw Zoser to) Sneferu (3/4 dyn) :
- (famine Zoser?, bent pyramid, Rahotep, global);
Moses ~ 12th dyn :
- (12 springs, slave workers?, brick buildings, temple Atum, new kdm/dyn/king, giant?, ....)


There is dispute whether the 400 or 430 yrs sojourn of the Hebrews in Gen-Exod was either:
(A) 430 yrs in Egypt alone as in Masoretic text; or
(B) 430 yrs in "Egypt and Canaan" (Septagint), or, 215 yrs (Jacob - Mose) in Egypt, and 215 yrs (Abe - Jose) in Canaan (Josephus, [DSS]).

Perhaps it is possible to adopt a provisional compromise/synthesis of ~300 yrs in Egypt?

Comparing geneaologies, there are more generations between Joshua/Caleb/etc and their tribal patriarch (11) than there are between Levi and Moses/Aaron (2/4).

The Jewish date of 2666 for exode may be related to 666 like massoetic 1656 date for flood?

Some have made a deal/case of 400 yrs of Genesis vs 430 yrs of Exodus, however 400 & 430 are interchangeable (rounding off) as with 40/42 in same system as 10/12, 50/52, 70/72, 100/110/120.

(4 generations to 400 yrs gives a generation of 100 yrs. The 4 generations may be types of 4 world ages?)


(Egypt/Arab: Surid built pyramid 300 yrs before flood (A Tomas).)
(300 yrs reign god-king Horus (Alford).)
350 yrs reign god-king Set (Alford).
350 yrs chaos betw demi-gods dyn & Menes.
400 yrs Messiah (2 Esdras 7:28).
400 yrs between Hyksos king and king of 19th egyptian dynasty (Massey).
400 yrs old Crow "phoenix" of Hor-Apollo (Massey).
420 yrs Noa to Abe.
430/400 yrs abe/jose - mose (exo 12:40, gen 15:13)
430 yrs gap in Sumerian king list that Waddell theorises.
436yrs bef 1st olymp, nilus reign (Massey).
448 yrs 4th dyn Manetho (Clayton);
450 yrs betw Christ and Galahad (E Blyton).
450/400 yrs reign of god-king Osiris (Massey, Alford).
480 yrs moses-solomon (1ki6:1)
490 yrs Daniel - Christ (Dan 9:24).
500 yrs reign god-king Geb (Alford).
511 yrs Hyksos (Josephus/Manetho).












Sunday, April 22, 2007

7 Days Creation, etc

Judaeo-Xtian vers:
7 remaining horns beast,
7 heads beast,
7 sons Job;
7 yrs Joseph,
Jacob served 7 yrs;
7 yrs Tribulation,
7 dispensations,
7 Cainite generations (Seth 8th),
7 days creation,
menorah,
7 churches,
7 archangels,
7 sons Japheth (Jashar),
wk of 7 yrs,
7 days week,
7 churches Paul (letters),
7 animals ark,
7 gens Abe - Moses (Josephus),
7 gens Adam - Enoch (Jude),
7 spirits,
7 deacons,
7 names God,
7 last words Jesus,
7 days festivals/feasts,
7 weeks betw passover & pentecost,
forgive (70 x) 7 x,
Cain/Lamech cursed -fold/x,
Israel/Jews extended punishment x7,
7 earths (Jewish),
[7 cities Nimrod],
7 sons Mizraim (Jashar);
7 daughters Jethro/Raguel/Hobab;
7 sephiroth (Myers),
5 loaves & 2 fish[es],
Hebron built 7 yrs before Tanis;
7 yrs Hebron, David.

Yaldabaoth engenders 7 beings,
7 stages Sufism,
7 stages islamic hell (Sykes),
7 heavens islam/gnostic (Cooper, Room, Jordan),
7 zenobias (B Walker),
7 heads Lotan/Leviathan (Sykes, Larouse),
7 headed serpent Phoenican (Waddell),

7 days Babyl flood,
7 tablets creation,
7 stages Tower of Babylon/Borsippa,
7 Maskim,
7 septenary spheres/"stars/planets"/heavenly bodies,
(Ningirsu/Ninurta slays) 7 headed snake-monster/serpent/dragon Sumerian/EDP (Heidel, Black & Green),
7 annunaki,
7 gates underworld,
7 spheres/grades Mithraism mysteries,
[7 metals/tree Avesta],
7 Amesha Spentas (Sykes);

7 Manus,
7 rivers India,
7 (sapta)mataras,
7 spurs Meru (Sykes),
7 circles Patala (Sykes),
7 Rishis (Sykes)?,
7 Prajapatis (Sykes)?,
7 horses Surya (Jordan),
7 root races theosophy,
7 gods of luck Japan.
7 thunders spring from corpse of Izanami.

7 rivers Egypt,
7 hills pre-dyn Egypt pottery,
7 castes Egypt,
7 Hathors,
7 cleopatras,
7 holes head,
7 gods invoked at daybreak (Zaire),

Apollo,
7 sages (Solon),
7 Pleiades/sisters,
7 against Thebes,
7 pairs youths sacrificed to Minotaur,
7 cyclopes built Tiryns,
7 Hyades (Cooper),
7 islands Persephone,
Sibyl 7 gens old;
7 days exode Tacitus;
7 hills Rome,
7 kings Rome,
7 Caesars (Westminster NT),
7 wonders world,

7 heads Rugievit,
Oossood pronounces destinies on 7th nt aft birth,
7 sleepers,
G7,
7 champions Xtendom (Cooper),
7 deadly sins,
7 swords (R Carpenter)???,
7 dwarves,
7 climate zones ([Natl Geogr/Time?]),
777,
7 aeons (ONA),

7 cities Cibola (Sykes),
Chicomoztec cavern of 7 chambers (Sykes),
7 caves tulan-zuiva (Sykes).

7 seas,
7 continents,
7 nitrogenous bases DNA,
7 caves Mars,
earth 7th planet counting inwards,
7 colours rainbow,
7 tones,
7 vowels (...),
7 senses (Cooper),
7 stars Ursa major,
7 day week ~ 1/4 of month.

There are 2 views about the 7 day creation week of Genesis 1, they are: that the 7 days were literal 24 or 12 hour days, or that they were (any length) ages/periods like 1000 yrs (yome meaning day &/or (cognate?) aeon).

7 literal days would explain the origin of the 7 day week, (moon not created til # day).

In many cases 8 is really "7 &/+ 1", which in many cases means "new".

8 kings/heads beast (Rev 17),
8 days old circumcision,
8th day man Adam,
888 numerological value Jesus Christ (Anderson),
Seth 8th following after 7 Cainite generations (Massey, O'Brien),
8 souls saved in Noah's ark,
David 8th son of Jessie,
8th/(1st) day JC resurrected (Oxford);

8 children Keret (Larouse),
"Eshmun 8th to 7 sons of Sydyk, Sydyk god of 8 rays" (Massey)?
8 stages Islamic paradise (Sykes),
Borsippa Nebo Ziggurat 8 spheres/stages/steps,
8 nagus/regions Babylonian world map (Black & Green),
8 pted star istar (Jordan, Bolton),
8 (asta)mataras,
8 Lokapalas/Dikpalas (Sykes),
8 vasus (Sykes, Jordan),
noble 8-fold path Buddhism (Pears/Cook),
8 Buddhas (Comte, Larouse),
8 hand crow Yatagarasu (Sykes),
Susano vs 8 headed serpent (Larouse).

8 gods Ogdoad Hermopolis (Jordan),
8 faces Bent Pyramid;
8 spokes chariot wheel Nuweiba,

[8 (x 3) runes,]
8 legged horse Sleipnir (Jordan),
88 h(eil )H(itler), 18 A(dolf )H(itler),
"8th" continent Atlantis (Berlitz),
8 hour day,
88 keys,
octave,
8 legs spiders,
8 legs octopus,
8 corners cube,
88 days Mercury,

10 Patriarchs, etc

10 pre-flood Sethite patriarchs (Fasold);
10 lost tribes;
10 commandments/words decalogue;
10 times "and God said", words to create world (Oxford);
10 horns/crowns/kings beast Daniel/Revelation;
10 plagues exodus;
10 post flood patriarchs (Josephus);
10 parts/divs world/age (has come to 10th, half 10th remains) (Ethiopic 2 Esdras);
10 per cent tithes;
10 gens Judah - David (Misler);
10 strings harp (Misler);
10 sons Haman;
10 Canaanite peoples Genesis (later reduced to 7, Misler);
110 yrs Joseph/Joshua;
1 yr & 10 days flood (Fasold, Amp.);
10 righteous men (Sodom/Abraham);
Joseph/Joshua 110 yrs old;
10 cities decapolis;
10 asses Denarius (Ottenheimer);
10 kings of the Adites (Fasold);
10 antediluvian kings Berosus (Fasold );
10 day banquet Bab new year festival of Akitu (9th day Marduk split Tiamat) (Alford);
10 Prajapatis (Cooper);
10 petris (9 Brahmadikas + Brahma) (Fasold);
10 (9 + 1) avataras Visnu, Indian (Sykes);
10 Pranas (5 Jnanendriyas + 5 Karmendriyas) India (Sykes);
10th day victory (after 9 days fighting) of Durga (Alford);
10 (9 + 1) suns Chinese (Larouse );
10 emperors Chinese (Fasold, );
10 hand spans long sword;

10 base/factors decimal (Semitic/Egyptian) system;
10 god-kings dyn Egyptian (Nordbergen);
10 day week Egypt (Alford );
10 (or 9) bows/arcs earth divided into (Egyptian,) (Spanuth);
10th day (after 9 days tempest) Shu (Hancock, Alford);
Dogon: "star of 10th moon" (Alford);

10 kings of Atlantis;
10 years Trojan war (Cook);
10 years Titanomachia war (Cook);
10 orig labours of Hercules (RL Green);
10 sibyls Varro (Cooper, Cook);
10 Dactyls (Cooper);
10 curiae Rome (Bolton);
10 Caesars (Westminster NT)?
10 months to a year originally (cf Numa, ref Fasold, );
10 (9 + 1) worlds/trees Eddaic (Brita-Titchenal/Bolton);
10 years to a decade;

10 kings Canary Is (Berlitz);
10 kings Maya (Berlitz);

10 "fingers"/digits/toes hand/foot;
10 - planet X;
10 dimensions (Milser);

Ten is some times interchangeable with 12 in the same manner as [40/42, 50/52,] 70/72, 100/120.

Note: (10) horns beast = lost tribes = sons haman (types).

The theory that the 2 lines of pre-flood patriarchs (7 cainite & 10 sethite) are really same (leading to/from that genesis is not true/original) has the problems that: (a) the orders (and spellings) are somewhat different, (b) the 2 lines are concurrent/contemp/coextant &/or consecutive (seth 8th aft 7 cainites), (c) one is 7 gens other is 10, (d) wife/mother of noah/son.

Num(b)er(olog)ical Symbolism, part 3, Analysis and Conclusions.

historical:
- prooves 3 sons Noah,
- prooves 10 patriarchs.

religious/holy:
- prooves trinity,
- prooves judaeo-xtianity/bible/God (7s, 3s, code signature fingerprint).

chronological:
- can help solve chronological uncertainties by giving us an alternative time-scale to geological one, arising from evidence that ancients viewed human/world time/history (& prophecy) as a whole, (sub-)dividing it into varying #s of consecutive ages analogous to micro sub-divisions/units of time.

geographical:
- can help to locate lost lands (eg Atlantis); evidence that ancients known/inhabited world was whole world not old world, which they (sub-)divided into # of continents/latitudes/hemispheres/worlds/quadrants like we do.

cultural/racial:
shows connections between various cultures/civilisatons (eg "aryan" tripartite caste system common to many; eg conns betw old wor & new wor; atlantean).

metaphysical/mystical/cosmology/scientific:
dimensions, principles/energies/forces.

Sunday, April 15, 2007

Abraham


The main extant chronologies place Abe-Jose too late (in Egyptian & Mesopotamian time lines) in my opinion. (They gen place Abe betw Ur 3 to Babylon 1 periods, and they put Jose betw 12th to 16th dyns.) Abraham lived only 400 yrs after flood, and at the end of longevity/(beginning of civilisation?).

The 2 droughts in (supp) "predynastic-postglacial" Egypt (2nd one corresp to Anau 2-Susa 2) acc to Cambridge Anc Hist, may be the droughts/famines of Abraham, Isaac &/or Joseph of Genesis? (Likewise with drought at Jericho between Natufian & Munhata/Yarmukian phases.)

Abraham may be contemporary with the 1st dyn of Egypt. According to Genesis 12 there was a bad famine followed by egypt/pharaoh being smitten by bad plagues. In the 1st Egyptian dyn the was a bad famine followed by a bad plague (and miracles). One possible problematic difference is that plagues is plural in genesis but singular in 1st Egy dyn (ref Bey), though Clayton does say "numerous plagues". (Also a problem if Waddell is right equating 1st dyn with the dyn of Akkad in Mesopotamian king list?)

On another hand Abraham could be Philitis of 4th egyptian dyn period, (see Herodotus)? Philitis was a shepherd and name means lover of righteousness, and Abe was called righteous in bk of Hebrews, (rather than P being Melchi-zedek as some in past claimed). <[Mastaba] mentioned in bible prophet book.>

Could (Su-)edin(-hum) (Subartu*/[Sumasti]/S(h)irihum/Suedinki/Subati/'Suedin & Gutium') of Sumer-Akkadian records be connected with Sodom? (LA Waddell reckoned suedinhum is Indus Valley. Su- can mean south.) In Genesis Sodom is said to be like Garden of the Lord (Eden, cp holy land). (Edin synoym Rom, d/r intchge.) Sodom was at Dead Sea, Suedinhum was near lower sea/nar marratu (salt/bitter [cp sea of death].)
* Many believe Horites of Transjordan were Hurrians, [mt Hur(r)um ~ mt Hor?].
* Su(edin) & Gu(tium) ~ Sodom & Gomorrah???
(Faint poss even that Sodom might be related to Solymi of Tacitus (Josephus)/Homer?)

Amadgal ("Akurgal", "son" of "Ur-nina") who is connected with Suedinhum could be Amraphel with d/r intchge, and g/p(h) as in Velikovsky's Apophis/Agag (Massey's Apophis/Akhekh, cp peleg/chalag; lupus/lykos; ahi/ophis, khent/fent)?
5/4 "sons" on [Ur-nina/Uruash] plaque perhaps 5 subject kings of valley &/or 4 confed ks? Lidda on plaque could be Lot?
Chedor-laomer could be Uruash Khad ["Ur-nina/Ur(uash)-nungal/Urlugal"]. King of Elam may corresp to lord of edin/anshan (persepolis)/indus as that king apparently was. (Chedorlaomer may be Arab Sheddad son of Ad & bro Luqman, and [Uruash Khad] is allegedly assoc with word [Ad].)
However possible problem is this depends on whether Waddell was right to equate:
uruash-khad (inscriptions) = ur(uash)-nungal/urlugal (uruk 1) = urnina/urnanshe (lagas [2])?

(Also/alt, Sargon is mentioned quelling a revolt there [suedinhum]; Sargon or Naramsin or Manishtusu conq Elam; Sayce says one of Sargon's names/titles was Dadil/Dadal/Ta(l)tal similar to Tidal, (and which resembles Daedalus, and Bristowe reckons Sargon conq Crete or Cyprus). Abraham and Sargon both connected with Ur name and fire worship.)

On another hand, could Tirigan of Gu-ti-um possibly be Tidal k of Goiim of Gen 14? (cp Sum gud/Heb goy/Engl cow.) In Hebrew d & r often interchange, and so do l & n, while Sumerian g is often dropped/added. (There was a k of early Lagas called Taltal-kur-gala; Guti period/dyn tied with late Lagas period/dyn.) Apparently there was a 12 yr famine/drought immediately before Tirigan. There was a famine/drought in gen chapter 12. Abe was 75 in ch 12, and next is 86 in ch 16, plus ch 14 says the ks served Elam for 12 yrs. It might make sense that they would rebel at end of famine/drought (and why took til yr 14 for response)? Tirigan is described as "the king who perished in the midst of his troops" vaguely similar to Abram routing the 4 kings. Tirigan's predecessor was "k of the 4 regions" - 4 kings of gen 14?

The usual old identifications for the 4 confed kings were:
Amraphel/Shin(g/e)ar - Hammurabi/Shumer;
Tidal/Goiim - Tudhaliyas/Goyim (Hittite/Hatti);
Arioch/Ellasar - Eri-Aku (Rim-Sin)/Larsa;
Chedorlaomer - Kudurlagamari (Kudurnakhunte/Kudurtakhunte about the time of Ur 3 dyn or Larsa dyn).
We can see the names are not necessarily as close as felt.

Judeao-Xtian version: Lot's wife turns back, turned into pillar of salt/vapourised.
Greek version: Orpheus looks back, wife lost.

Perhaps compare Japanese: Izanami burnt to death by birth of fire god; Izanagi warned not to look at her too closely. (Some BIs suppose Japs are descs of Lot/Transjordan tribe).

Judaeo-Xtian versions: God rains fire and brimstone down on Sodom & Gomorrah etc, Lot's wife turned to pillar of salt/vapourised. (Cp Abe saved from fiery furnace.)
Mesopotamian: 'fire and stones'.
Mesopotamia: floor of fused glass bottom of all strata of archaeological mine shafts (Berlitz). Remains of tower of Babel are vitrified indicating huge amount of heat (G Jeffrey). "... thunder ... the casing of burnt bricks" (Borsippa, Nebuchadnezzar inscript) [burnt from catastrophe &/or from sun/fire when making?]
Gobi: vitrified soil of type caused by atomic explosion (Berlitz).
Mexican vers: rain of fire (& gravel)/fiery rain ends # world age (Quiahuitl).
Greek vers: Phaethon almost sets world on fire. Phoenix. Monster Aegides vomitd flames in Phrygia spread far as India then Lebanon and as far as Egypt and Africa. Semele burnt to death. (Compare Medusa head turn people who look to stone.)
Celtic: Druid myth tells how fire & water prevail over earth (Hislop, Sykes).
India: Aurva created from thigh great consuming fire which would have consumed world....
Arabia/Palestine: Quite a few authors have given evidence that the whole Sinai, Negeb, Petra, Dead Sea, Lawz and El-Wijh area are burnt/scorched/seared/blackened/dessicated/scared/ash & lava fields (Alford, Murray, Jeffrey, Oommen, Cornuke).

Gomorah/Amorah might be Numeira (David Down [n/g intcge or n- prefix]; cp Qumran?)


Could Ben-Yamini of Mari recs be Ben-Ammi/Ammonites (rather than "stherners" or Ben-jaminites)???, &/or Ben-Sam'ali of Mari recs be Ishma-elites (rather than "ntherners")???

Ram caught in thicket of Abe/Isaac story supposedly resembles "ram in thicket" of Ur city tho the latter otherwise called 'goat with tree of life'. (Perhaps compare Mendes of 2nd dyn of Egypt.) Zodiacal age of Aries (cp Khnum (3rd/4th dyn), Amun (12th, 18th dyns))?

Hebron was built 7yrs before Tanis (Num 13:22); name of Pepy (6th dyn) found at Tanis meaning town at least that old.
Earlier name of Hebron was Kirjath-Arba "city of four" which is similar to Akkadian shar kibrdtim arba'inm erbettim "king of the 4 quarters".

Abe (roughly) came immediately after end of extreme longevity. Gilgamesh of Uruk 1 came immediately after end of extreme longevity. Pepy, Djedi, Gilgamesh were centenarians (like Joseph and Moses).

Azilian letters on pebbles found at/under Beersheba, and Beersheba is connected with time of Abraham/Hagar, possibly meaning Abe and Azilian close time-wise.

There is a strange similarity of Abraham and Sarah/Sarai with Brahman and Sri of India.

([Salibi or Osman]'s Asir in Arabia is biblical Asshurim sons of Abraham (not Assyria), not Israel.



Thursday, April 12, 2007

Continental Shift(s)

Orthodoxy says continental drift, others say continental sprints/shift(s), some say cont "drift"/shift is only theory. Evidences of sudden continental shift(s)/sprint(s) not (just) drifting:


-Sudden shift could have triggered volcanic eruptions cp Thera, iridium, tachylite/cinder/ash mid-Atl ridge, tektites.

-Shift would cause earthquakes cp Atlantis/Athens, Easter I, Nazca, Stonehenge damaged from [sw], Minoan, collapsed/bent pyramid.

-Shift would have caused tidal waves cp Ur/Kish flood strata.

-Sudden continental shift would have caused sea/lakes to slosh over land as testified by Hopi myth, bible, sea salt petrified mastodon bones near Bogota, whale bones in USA, muddy sea, Tiahuanaco flood.

-These catastrophies would have caused sudden mass extinctions of prehistoric megafauna cp mass graves in Siberia, Gobi, [Alaska], [Mexico/Texas].

-Sudden shift would have caused warmer (or cooler re ice shift) oceans cp seafloor sediments.

-Cont shift would have wrinckled/crested up mountain ranges cp Rockies/Cascade/Coast/Cordillera, Andes, Grt Div Rge, Himalayas, mid-Atlantic ridge.

-Sudden continental shift would explain migration patterns of birds/lemmings/eels/butterflies, which are exactly the same as ancient ships going out to look for Atlantis where it once was in vain.

-Evidence from Andes that shift happened contemp with humans/civ incls Tiahuanaco, nets/pottery/stone implements/cloth in strata/cross-bedding, staircase.

- recently discovered hole/hot spot in mid-Atlic crust.

-Cp catastrophic turning inside out of Venus.

- altered alignments; seeming sky/moon/stars falling/standing still; seeming sinking Atlantis.


Bible, myth, science etc give/are evidence that all the continents broke up and shifted from one common original supercontinent.

- Judaeo-Xtian vers: Earth (land &/or people) divided in days of Peleg.
- Mesopotamian vers: Ki means cleave [gap/gulf]. [Tiamat] cut in half by [Bel].
- Egyptian vers: Osiris cut into 14 pieces. Thoth "the er", (D Fasold.)
- Maori vers: Maui's bros cut up fishes back making valleys & mountains.
- floating islands. world egg opened.
- Classical vers: Zagreus torn to pieces by Titans. Zeus, Poseid, Hades, (Persephone, Athena, Hephaestus) divide up earth/Gaea between them; 3 islands of Z, Poseidonis, H.


Saturday, April 07, 2007

3 sons of Noah; &/or Trinity


- Cabalist/Judaeo-Xtian/Biblical versions:
Cain, Abel, Seth?
Tubal, Jubal, Jabal?
3 levels Ark.
3 sons of Noah: Shem, Japheth, Ham, (+ Noah = 4th).
Nimrod, Joktan, Fenech (Charlesworth).
Abram, Nahor, Haran?
Abraham visited by 3 angels;
Abram, Eleazar, Isaac (Milser).
3 patriarchs: Abram, Isaac, Jacob.
Ahiman, Sheshai, Talmai.
Daniel 3rd in kdm.
Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego.
3 ribs bear (Dan).
3 uprooted horns beast.
Gaspar, Melchior, Belshazar.
Moses, JC, Elijah.
Peter, James, John.
3 crosses: Thief, JC, Thief (Jantsang).
3 days JC: died, buried/Sat, rose/Sun.
Holy, Holy, Holy (Misler).
Was, Is, Is to Come;
Antichrist, False Proph, Dragon.
666.
Trinity/Godhead: Father, Son, Holy G/S.
Sinoptic gospels: Mt, Mk, Lk.
3 OT grps/divs: law & prophets & writings/other/rest.
Kether, Binah, Hokhmah (Myers).
[Geburah, Tipereth, ....]
Body, soul, spirit.
3 divs templ: Holy of Holies, inner court, outer court.
3 letters YHWH.
Judaism, Xtianity, Islam.
3 consonant/letter roots.
3 Teachers of Righteousness (J Jewell, ).
Saducees, Pharisees, Essenes.
3 heavens (D Prince, ).
1/3rd vs 2/3rds angels.
poss 3 intended bks Luke's.
3 1/2 yrs tribulation.
time, times, half time.
Jesus ministry 3 yrs.

- Hittite version:
3 sons Anus/Kumarbis: Tesub, Tasmisu, Aranzah (Lehman, Larousse.).

- Phoenician version:
Chronus, Potos, Omicle (Sykes).
Phos/light, Phur/fire, Phlox/flame.
Athirat, Anat, Asherah (Jordan).
Qre, Ashima, ... (Graves).
Tripoli.

Allat, Uzza, Manat (B Walker, Chick).

- Babylonian versions:
Tiamat, Apsu, Mummu (Heidel).
Ea, Anu, Bel (Black/Green, ).
Sin, Samas, Istar/Adad (Sykes, Sayce).

-Iranian version:
3 sons of Thraetaona/Feridun: Eraj, Salm/Sayrima, Tur.
Rashnu, Mithra, Sraosha (Sykes).
3 saviours: Saoshyant, ..., ... (J Jewell, Larouse).
Creation, Mixture, Separation.
3 parts Avesta (Sykes).
tripitaka.

- Indian versions:
heads snake Ahi (Cooper);
Brahma, Visnu, Siva.
3 sons of Manu: Sama/Scherma, Chama, Pra-Jyapeti (S Bristowe.)
Rajas, Tamas, Sattva (radio).
Indra/Vayu, Agni, Surya (Sykes, C Cook/Pears).
3 wives: Ganga, Sarasvati, Jumna/Lakshmi (Cotterell).
3 aryan castes: brahm, kshatr, vishya.
33 (3 x 11) devas (Jordan).
3 steps: rising, zenith, setting (Jordan, Hrozny).
3 cities/parts world: heaven, air, earth (Jordan).
3 cities: gold, silver, iron (Jordan).

Amaterasu, Susano, Tsuki-yomi (A Cotterell).

Kola, Klepio, Arvo (K Buck, ).

- Greek versions:
Chaos, Eros, Gaia (Tyson).
3 sons of Uranus & Gaia: Kronos, Titan/Typhon, Iapetos divide up earth (Bristowe.)
3 sons of Kronos & Rhea: Zeus, Poseidon, Hades.
Minos, Rhadamantys, Sarpedon/Aeacus.
Aeolos, Dorus, Xuthus.
4 legs, 2 legs, 3 legs (Sphinx).
3 hypostates: One, Mind, Soul (Scorpion).
3 intended bks Plato (Zangger).
Hermes Trismegistus.
Trident.
Stone, Bronze, Iron (Filmer, Cooper).
3 conts Old World: Europe, Asia, Libya (Herodotus).
3 Muses/castalides.
3 phases Hera: pais, teleia, chera (Jordan).
Artemis, Demeter, Hecate (Bolton)?
3 Dactyls/[chalybes?]: Smelter, Hammer, Anvil (Cooper).
3 Horae/parcae: Eunomia, Dice, Irene.
3/triple heads/bodies Hecate (Bolton).
3 Moirae/parcae/fates: Klotho, Lachesis, Atropus.
3 gorgons: Medusa, Stheno, Euryale.
3 graces/Gratiae/Charities: Aglaia, Thalia, Euphrosyne.
3 headed dog Cerberus.
3 bodied Geryon.
3 Hesperides (Cooper).
3 Erinyes/furies/Eumenides: Alecto, Tisiphone, Megaira.
3 Cyclopes: Brontes, Steropes, Arges.
3 Hecatoncheires/centimani: Cottus, Gyges, Briareus/Aegaeon.
3 Graeae.

Uni, Tin, Minerva (Sykes, B Walker).

Jupiter/Juventas, Juno, Minerva (Walker, Jordan).
Jupiter, Mars, Quirinus (Jordan).
3 tribes (Cook).
3 remaining sibylline books.
3 Horatii (Cook).
triumvirate: Julius Caesar, Pompey, Crassus.
Octavian, Antony, Lepidus.

Napoleon, Ducos, Sieyes.
Napoleon, De Cambaceres, Lebrun.
33 degrees masonry.

[3 Celt/Galli/Gaul castes/provs: (Caesar).]

- Norse versions:
Odin, Vili, Ve.
Harr, Janfar, Thrud.
Odin, Frey, Thor (Tyson).
Jarl, Karl, Thrall.
Istaevon, Ingaevon, Hermion.
Odin, Hoenir, Loder.
3 Norns: Urd, Verdandi, Skuld.
Man, Maid, Frost Giant (Branston).
[Asgard, Midgard, Jotunheim (Anderson)?]
Valknut 3 triangles (Skadi).
[3 x 8 runes.]
3 (sub-)races of Europe: Alpine, Nord, Medit, (Ripley).
3 x 8 hrs: sleep, work, ....

3 heads Triglav: heaven, earth, lower regions (Sykes).

- Egyptian versions:
Gods, Demigods, Manes.
Isis, Horus, Seb/Set (Chick).
Atum, Shu, Tefnut (Alford).
Memphite: Ptah, Seker, Osiris.
Khepri, Ra, Atum.
3 Hermes/Thoths: Set, Shu, Thoth (Massey).
Khufu, Khafre, Menkaure.
3 seasons: Inundation, Winter, Summer.
Osiris, Horus, Isis (Sykes/Mercatante).
Set, Nephthys, Anubis (Mercatante).
Theban: Amon-Re, Mut, Khensu (Sykes).
Memphite: Ptah, Sekhmet, Imhotep (Sykes).
Elephantine: Anquet, Khnemu, Sati (Sykes).
3 kingdoms: O, M, N.
Userkaf, Sahure, Neferirkare.

Maou, Lisa, Gou (Sykes).

- Tupi-Guarani version:
Guaracy, Jacy, Peruda (Sykes).

Kane, Ku, Lono/Kanaloa (Jordan).
3 fingers Maori carvings.

Trinary star (radio, ).
Earth 3rd planet from Sun.
3 phases Moon.
3 spheres: sun/solar, moon/lunar, stars/stellar.
core mantle crust.
3 lobes brain (M Godwin).
vestigal 3rd eye-lid (Cook).
[time/energy, matter, space (K Wheeler, CSF/AIG/ICR/logos/libronix).]
3 states matter: solid, liquid, gas.
3 (geographical) races: Cauc, Mong, Negr.
3 dimensions.
3 body types: ecto, meso, endo.
3 phases women.
3 stars Orions belt.
hundreds (100 - 999).
3 leaf clover.
past, present, future.
father, mother, child.


Trinity explains the origin of pluralis majesticus "us".

Noah cursed Ham because he had castrated (not sodomised) him (in the ark (after flood)?) because he didn't want earth divided up between more than 3 bros there already were, hence Noah had no further sons (Noachites/Noachians) after flood.
Noah's cursing of (Ham via) Canaan to be a slave was the source of the "Aryan" (Dumezil) tripartite caste system of the code of Manu (flood survivor, 3 sons Sama/Scherma, Chama & Pra-Jyapeti). (The sometimes 4 instead of 3 castes may be incld Noah or giants/Cainites?)

Biblical Shemites:
- Elam;
- Assyria;
- Chaldee, Hebrew, Arab, Moab, Ammon, Edom, Nabatean;
- Aramaeans/Syrians.

modern label "Semitics":
- Arab; sth Arab; Ethiopia;
- Canaan, Hebrew, Phoenicia, Punic;
- Akkadian, Assyria, Babylonian;
- Aramaic, Chaldee, Syriac, Ahlamu;
- Amorite; Ugarit; Ebla; Hyksos; biblical Hittites.

Biblical Khamites:
- Egypt, Philistines;
- Canaan, Hittites, Phoenicians, Amorites;
- Libya;
- Ethiopia, Sumer, Assyria, Babylonian, Akkadian.

modern label "Hamitics":
- Egypt, Libya, Ethiopia, Nilo-Hamites.

According to some sources Hamitic is an arbitrary/convenient grouping of 3 branches of Hamito-Semitic/Afro-Asiatic/Erythraic/Adamic (equal status with Semitic branch).

Friday, April 06, 2007

Aliens/Angels/Gods


->Judaeo-Xtian versions: Sons (bene) of God (Elohim)/Watchers/Enochians/Nefilim descending from heaven (in days of Jared) and beget Giants of wickedness by fair Daughters (bath?) of men (Adam). Some Xtians believe that Antichrist will come in a UFO faking the 2nd Coming of Christ. Bk of Daniel: iron + clay = angels + humans?
-> (The biblical Tower of Babel was built to raise men up to heaven/God, &/or) the Sumerian ziggurats were built to bring the gods down from heaven.
-> Sumer: kingship desc from heaven/Anu.
-> Sumerian: Z Sitchin claims Sumerian myth says Annunaki came from planet X.
-> [Babylonian?] version: Terra-cotta men and fair women (Acknowl: T Jantsang.)
-> "gods plural before god singular" (E von Daniken).
-> Mythology traces human origins from the Great Mountain/mtns which can be figurative of heaven (& landing place mt [Hermon]).
-> [Armenian (unverified): Arevorti "sons/(children) of the sun/(light)".]
-> Indian version: Marisha d of Kandu/[Suryavansa or [serpent race]], + Prachetasas => Daksha/Pretas/Ishwara, (T Jantsang/Puranas).
-> Mongol version (creation myth): Borjigin/blue-eyed heroes children of the Blue (celestial) Wolf and the White Fallow Doe ("repr sky & earth, male & female, light & dark") (Acknowls: Hopsen, T Jantsang, S Devi, Google.)
-> China: emperor called "son/monarch of heaven". Arrival of the sons of heaven in fiery-tailed dragon ships.
-> Japan: emperor called "son/monarch of heaven".
-> winged discs; ezekiel; the egg; vimanas.

-> Theosophical version: 1st root race Astral, 2nd Ethereal (Ref: Scott-Eliot.)
-> separte creation/parallel evolution/polygenesis.
-> "tall, dark and handsome."
-> Greek version: From Uranus (sky/heaven) and Gaea (earth) come the Titans (Acknowl: J Jewell.)
-> Roman version: Romans had no women, abduct/"rape" (seduce) daughters of Sabines, Romans and Sabines thereafter become one people (Ref: Larousse, Acknowl: T Jantsang.)
-> Norse versions: Golden Age lasted until the women of Jotunheim corrupted it. Man, maid & frost giant. Wannen. (Sykes, Larousse, Branston.)
-> Baltic: sons of sky marry daughters of sun.
-> Transfirmia version: (superior) Alien beings interfered with (seeded life on earth &/or sped-up) human evolution. Scientists/scholars believe that life may have evolved on Mars.
-> Aetherians make Jesus Christ to be an Alien; (Yahweh made out to be an Alien by sub-genius society).
-> (vestal) "virgins" of the ....

-> Inca: emperors/kings called "son/children of the sun/light". Giants deprived of light.
-> Mochica: Giants landed on the coast and raped the native women, (A Alford).

-> Navaho: the daughters of Bright Star and Great Star marry the sons of the Sun and the Moon (L Stringer).

-> blue skined (robed) [& eyed, blooded] gods? (P Kolosimo.)
-> Egyptian pharaohs called "son of sun/Re".
-> Egyptian: union of Upper & Lower Egypt (red & black)?
-> The knowledge of the Dogon tribe about Sirius/Sothis (Nommo myths).
-> Benin: sons of Fa came from the sky.

-> NZ: Orthodox scholars say that the Maori myths of earlier White peoples (spirit-walkers) in NZ/Polynesia are really ETs/(smurves/fairies).

-> "sphinx"/"pyrs"/[canals]/7 caves on mars.
-> Modern day UFOs/flying saucers (which defy laws of physics).

The biblical story of the Sons of God descending & mix/mating with the fair daughters of men is debated to be refering to either Angels [= "aliens/gods"] and Adamitesses, or Sethites and Cainitesses.

"Aliens" must have either "evolved" or been created (with or without intermediate in turn transfirmian "seedings").

"Aliens" = Angels = "gods".


It is alleged that giants were not literal but exagerated/dualised/relative/deified/given features symbolically/child:adult.

Forbidden scientific & historical evidence of literal giants prooving the accuracy of the Bible &/or of "mythology" that I have collected incls:

1) Ancient human oral memories of our ancestors ("myths" & Bible) of giants eg:

-> Judaeo-Xtian: Nephilim/giants of wickedness/Gibborim, Rephaim, Anakim, Zuzims, Zamzummims, Emims, (Og, Nimrod, Goliath);
-> Norse: Etins/Jotuns, Thurses, Muspel, deformed giants, Jack & the Bean stalk;
-> Cro-Magnons tall/superior stature to today;
-> Celtic: Gogmagog;
-> Greek: Titans, Cyclopes, Gigantes, Aloeidae, Hecatoncheires;
-> Inca: giants deprived of light;
-> Mexican: Quinametzin;
-> Maori: Rapuwai.

2) Finds of ancient/prehistoric giant humanoid footprints in USA (disputed whether genuine), Sakkara in Egypt, & allegedly Australia & NZ (Gilroy disputed whether genuine).

3) Finds of (used?) "ceremonal" mega-tools in a few places around the world.

4) "impossible" ancient structures such as megaliths/stonehenge, pyramids, Baalbek. (Tho recent theories include ancient cement.)

5) "exagerated" statures of kings & gods in ancient pictures (eg Naramsin) who are called part divine.

6) Finds of giant human & animal (megafauna, gigantopithecus/meganthropus) bones/skeletons in a few places around the world (compare big wetas high altitude). (Some other recent giant humanoid bones disputed whether genuine/fake.)

7) modern sitings of creatures like big foot?

8) remnant giant features in modern pictures of persons eg Andre, Ernest Roehm, and discoveries by modern geneticists. (Compare Little John.)

9) the recent discovery of the opposite "Hobbits" in Indonesia.

Sinuhe story is reminiscent of David, were he goes up against a "mighty/strong man" ie giant.

Previously candidates for races [descendants] of giants were Cro-Magnons, Patagonians, Jutes/Nordics & Nilotics (ectomorphs).

In bible giants come between Jared (pre-fl)/(Og)/Nimrod (post-fl) and David, (tho some traditions say Adam was a giant).

Some think the biblical name Nephilim/Nefilim "fall/fell" (n- prefix (I Donnelly)?) is related to Sumer-Akkadian name Nibiru/Nabiru (also/alt compared to Hebrew &/or Nimrod), &/or Eddaic name [Niflheim/Niflhel]/Nibelung (cp Grk Nephele); [cp netherlands, nihilism?]. (Perhaps Naacal [Nachal?] (Na-chan?) (or nile/[nahar/nahal])???)

Some are seemingly suggesting that the nephilim are not the fallen angels &/or their earthly offspring because they see Gen 6:4-5 "There were nefilim/giants (of wickedness) in/on the earth in those days and after that when the sons of God came [NWT "continued"] .... The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth...." as possibly implying they were "in" the earth before the angels descended, [tho perhaps "- and after -" (Amp) is post-flood?]. There is seemingly a distinction in myth between 2 kinds/races/types of giants: earth-born, and offspring of heaven (& earth)? Some add that there is a tradition that Adam was a giant; and that there was a (connected) decline in stature/size, IQ/memory and lifespan/longevity (cf wetas). The [metal age] dwarves/elves of some mythologies are perhaps our type of modern humans in relative comparision to the [stone age] giants.

Derek Prince once suggested that the mixing was occult rather than/as well as physical/sexual/literal.

Josephus & Genesis 6:5 seem to confirm that the nefilim were humans (Adamite descs, Josephus says specifically Sethites).
Thus we have reached a synthesis that has both the sons of God/daughters of men interpretations (Angels/Adamitesses, Sethites/Cainitesses) (and explaining origin of Sethites/Cainites one), adding an extra category to other 2 making 3 categories: the Nephilim/giants of wikedness, the descended Angels and the offspring of angels & daughters.

(Adam via) earth cursed -> Cain cursed -> Lamech -> men defy name of lord (Enosh) -> nefilim/giants of wickedness -> mixing with fallen angels -> offspring angels -> (Ham via) Canaan cursed -> hunter against the lord.

There are a number of different types/levels/degrees of giants/angels/gods/aliens in myth:
- nefilim, - descended angels, - pre-flood offspring of angels & humans, - post-flood giants, ....

Mixing also went on between angels/men and beasts/animals/creatures (cp Omoroka/Thalath myth, ape-men?).

Some say the bible doesn't give a clear/definate account about the creation of the angels (when). I came across a theory of my own that the beasts/creatures/animals created (and named by Adam) in Gen 2 might be the angels? (or the stars of Gen 1 might be?) Angels are called creatures/flies in a couple of places in bible. Cherubs said to have 4 faces ([lion, bull, man/angel, serpent]). The serpent Nahash of Gen 3 is supposed to be Satan. Gen 6:7 says God will wipe out beasts/birds in Flood.

Acknowledgements:
petros koutoupis (origins of the nephilim); derek prince, erich von daniken, zecharia sitchin, chuck misler (66 40), f josephus, alan alford, john jewell, peter kolosimo (timeless earth), dodona, jc cooper, rex gilroy, roy alan anderson, sydney bristowe, jamie, wierville, andrew collins,













Thursday, April 05, 2007

Noah's Flood


-> Judaeo-Xtian version Noachian Great Flood, ark lands at Ararat. Samael's Flood of genesis 1: .
-> Indian version: Matsya forewarns Manu Vaivasvata of flood.
-> Iranian version: Yima warned of flood by Ahura Mazda, builds cave refuge in mtns (var). (Ref: E Sykes.)
-> Arab version: Adites drowned in 2nd flood. Ark lands at .
-> Phoenician version: Baal vs Yamm (sea/river). (Ref: Larousse.)
-> Thai version: pesi. (F Comte.)
-> Japanese version: Izanagi & Izanami fish up Japan islands from ocean.
-> Chinese version: Yu. Pictograph/ideograph for boat = vessel + 8 + mouth; for flood = water + total; for total = 8 + united + earth. (Ref: Larousse, .)
-> Taiwan: Peiroun warned of deluge.
-> Indus Valley seals: boat Naveya of Yi.

-> Samoyed versions: Num(itorem) sent birds to explore watery chaos at beginning of world, made land from mud that one of them brought back in its beak. (Ref: A Cotterell.)
-> Norse version: Ymir slain, blood floods world. (Ref: E Sykes.)
-> Roman version: Saturnia & Janicula/Janiculum 2 cities on either side of flood before Rome.
-> Baltic version: Pramzimas/Pramziwas.
-> Greek versions: Zeus sends flood, Deucalion escapes in ark, lands on mt Parnassus. Ogyges sought salvation from flood in mtns/heights. Atlantis. Flood erosion Argolid (& Troy #?) Triton. Flooding of the Mediterranean. (Refs: RL Green, Larousse, D Fasold; Acknowls: Plato.)
-> Black sea flood.

-> Maori version: Maui fishes up NZ/islands.
-> Pele poured out seas around Hawaii.
-> Australian Aborigine version: Rainbow Serpent connected with flood/rising sealevels. 2 ancestors of tribe emerged from heap of debris carried by the flood. (Acknowl: Natl Radio, Cotterell.)

-> Inca: Tiahuanaco flooded. Copacati submerged temples beneath l Titicaca.
-> Tupi-Guarani: Irin Mage caused deluge. Tawenduare stamped on grnd so hard that that water gushed forth in a flood.
-> Chibcha/Muyscaya: Chia flooded whole world once.

-> Quiche: Hurakan caused deluge.
-> Aztec: All humans of world age of Atl destroed in/ended by deluge. Xelhua escaped deluge by going to top of mtn.
-> Mesoamerican versions: All peoples of 1st world except Coxcox & wife destroyed by flood. Tezpi escaped flood. (RA Anderson).
-> Chiapanese: Votan/[Nahua] saved on raft at time of deluge (RA Anderson, Fitzgerald-Lee).
-> Algonkian: Manibozho took refuge on mtn when lake overflowed & submerged world.
-> Huron: Great Frog swallowed all the deluge waters.
-> Tuleyone Indian: Olle/Coyote caused flood.
-> Eskimo: Overpopn prevented by Sedna who took pleasure in drowning many men; Sedna cast overboard, sank to bottom of sea.

-> Egypt: Recollection of flood in hieroglyph of Bennu bird. Thoth sends flood. Atmu caused waters grt deep to overflow & drown everyone. Surid builds pyramid before flood. Hermes sets up 2 columns in Siriadic land one of brick & one of stone to survive fire or flood. (Hathor & Sekhmet wade in human blood), Ra floods world with beer. Sphinx rain marks? (Ref: E Sykes, G Hancock, A Alford, Mercatante.)

Similarities (minor details): bird sent out, name Noah/Num/etc, sacrifice, forewarned, mount(ain) (Ararat), etc.

The main views on the biblical Great Flood are that it was either global (&/or even also hit Mars), or only local/known world (Ur &/or Black sea &/or Mediterranean), while some say there was no Flood at all (eg "= blood").

To the contention that the word for earth used in the Genesis flood account is different to other word(s) for (whole) earth, I believe a possible explanation is that it is subtly saying "whole earth excld the ark & its passengers/cargo", man being dust/earth.
Taking the (pure) bible (& oral judaeo-xtianity) as a whole it would seem that the flood was global.
The bible says not only all earth but also under all heaven, (& all with breath of life/sinners died).
If the flood was only local then God lied that he wouldn't flood whole world again.
Why did they not seek refuge in highlands if not global?

To the contention of where all the water came from/went to (- where does water of floods today go?):

(A.) The seas were shallower before flood (as attested by early geological strata, cp sea mounts/continental edges) and hills where lower (as attested by "myths" like those of Maui & Mu).
The world surface is 7/10ths water vs 3/10ths land. The avge depth ocean 12451 ft vs avge height land above sealevel is 2300 ft. (If the surface of the earth was flat the water would stand over 7900 ft/1.5 mi deep.)
There is the Tidal Bulge theory, (bible poss implies some sort of tidal wave-like activity in "waters coming and going").

(B.) In fact some claim that even today there is almost enough water tied up in arctic & antarctic ice to subermerge the much/most of the whole world, tho ice is more expanded than water (tho ice floats and is on Antarctica). (Cp Sum-Akk myth says apsu flood waters held in a "spell/sleep" by Ea/Enki.)

(C.) Fountains of the Deep (cp caves):
Not to mention the under[ground &/or ocean] rivers of water known to modern scientists & ancient dowsers (megalithic). There are springs in the mid-Atlantic and Persian Gulf.
There is also the recently discovered Beijing anomaly (cp Churchward's subterranean gas chambers, Apsu).
"Myths" speak of the orfice thru which the flood waters drained away like a bath plug hole (cp Symmes hole(s).)

(D.) Floodgates (cataracts) of Heaven/Waters Above/Rain (Zanger):
There is also the Canopy theory that the preflood atmosphere held more water (no rain(bow)), tho I'm not sure that this theory is right.
Recent evidence/theories suggest that both/either of the exploded planet Xs (one(s) between Mars and Jupiter, and the other(s) beyond Pluto) were watery/icy (& red) planets.
It is possible water could have evaporated into upper atmosphere and been lost to space (like during Joseph's drought) as scientists say will happen in global warming (cp lunar (atmosphere) capture/"Martian rock" Antarctica).

(E.) Ancient accounts attest there were areas like Nile Delta/Lower Egypt/Suez, and Sealands that were [mud/clay] marshes/bogs/swamps after the flood that had to be reclaimed by building dykes/dams/canals/aqueducts, (cp Aral sea).

To the contention that Noah couldn't fit/feed/care for all evolved species on the ark, the flaw is that biblical kinds are not species but cross-fertile/viable levels varying between species and [order] for different animals.
Noah had 120 yrs (and God's help) to collect specimens.
For larger animals eggs or young could have been used (some say "seed" of some versions is dna).
There were 2 of [un/clean] and 7 of [un/clean].

To the contention of the traditions that the Cainites &/or Giants survived the flood (cp [Phoenix/Griffin]), the traditions are possibly really refering to the wives/mother(s) of Shem/Ham/Japheth/Noah (polygamy).

It was said by some authors there are no Egyptian accounts of the flood, but in fact there are quite a few incld the myths of: Thoth (G Hancock), Surid, Siriadic columns, Bennu/Phoenix, Nun, Atlantis, Atum, and Ra (Sekhmet & Hathor).

Possible evidences of a global flood may incld: Oxford Clay, traces of humans/civ in every period of geological time scale at all sorts of depths, fossils, world flood is universal "myth", grand canyons, pillow lava mt Ararat, scientists believe there was a great flood on Mars, rain marks very early geological strata/period (cp Grt Sphinx & Sarmast's Cyprus), deposits of marine life on Himalayas/etc, etc.

It doesn't seem to have been noticed that the genesis account saying it rained 40 days and 40 nights may = 80 not just 40/42.
The 7 days of Mesopotamian account are confounding with 7 days of Creation week, the flood being analogous to creation (cyclic).
The Massoretic text year 1656 AM for the Great Flood may perhaps really be 1666 like the annus [mirabilis] AD 1666 being related to the 666 (or 616) of Revelation?

Yhwh was both sender and saviour while heathen split the roles between Ea/Enki vs Enlil (Zeus vs Prometheus).

Reasons why sinking of Atlantis and Flood cant be same event/time:

Reasons why Flood can't be rising sea levels at end of last great ice age:
There were 4 ice ages (in just the last of a number of ice ages), but one flood. Flood didn't come from ice but from deep &/or heaven.
Ice age seems to be mentioned after and not before Flood in bible history.


There are 3 theories re where the Ark may still be: Ararat, Durupinar, or Suleiman.

1) On Mt Ararat in Kurdistan/[Armenia] there have been quite a few modern/mediaeval sightings (incl by Fasold?) & one recorded by Josephus around the time of Christ, of a wooden cuboid object perhaps/not about the size of the Ark (compare Viking long houses/barrows).
There have also been brought back pieces/beams of wood, and there has been found pillow lava which forms under water.

2) Some people think that (a) [reed-]boat/ship shaped feature(s), called Durupinar, about 30 km SW of Ararat in Turkey/Kurdistan (near Iran border) unearthed after an earthquake in 1948, is the remains of Noah's ark (same size), though some hold that it is just one of the # of natural ship-shaped volcanic rock formations which are known of in Turkey (& Australia) (perhaps formed during the flood?) (The same claim that has been made about other anomalous archaeological sites/artefacts that threaten the System's moralistic/politically correct/ideological dogmatism, &/or that favour alternative worldviews.) (Note the shape of this object is a coffin/kite with a CROSS in it!) Fasold says there have been found quite a few drogue stones in the area, and that the modern historical siting(s) on Ararat might have been of this object easily mistaken for nearby Ararat. There have also been found in the formation metal rivets, and remains of a spoted cat not native to the area. The Turks have sealed of the site as the location of Noah's Ark.
Very ancient remains have been found at [Medzamon] & Nakhicevan nearby to these 1st 2 ark sites.

3) On Chuck Misler's radio program 66-40 (Rhema) his friend Bob Cornuke, who has been involved with searches for & discoveries of such Biblical sites/artefacts as St Paul's shipwreck, Mt Sinai, the Ark of the Covenant and Noah's ark, said that Mt Ararat was only nominated as the Biblical Mtns/[hills*] of Ararat and so named in AD/mid.
The Biblical name Ararat is said to be the same as the ancient kingdom of Urartu (Alarodians) which Cornuke says Assyrian records imply was further to the east around modern n.w. Iran, tho others insist that Urartu was def [only] in Armenia/Van not [also] nw Iran.
Cornuke points out Genesis says the ark landed on the mountains (plural or dual?) of Ararat (there are a # of plural mtns in mythology), [though there are twin mountain peaks called Mashu in Babylonian myth and Ararat does have 2 peaks].
He also appeals to the Genesis verse that says they migrated from the east to Babel, (tho some versions read "in (or to?) the east", and compass points may have been different then?)
Last I heard until recently was that he was planing to helicopter around a likely mountain thereabouts in hopes of finding remains of the Ark still there.
Recent news was that they found on Mt Suleiman/Elburz Mtn Range (wood fragments and/from an ancient shrine at top of mtn which unknown people had made pilgrimages to; and lower on the mountain/near) a prominent ark-like/prow-shaped/boat-shaped rock formation/outcrop, which they say resembles petrified wood, emerging from a ridge.



Tower of Babel

by Larry Stringer & Sean Bambrough.

-> Judaeo-Xtian versions: 7 cities incld city & Tower of Babel up to Heaven ("gateway") built by Nimrod a gibbor/mighty hunter/archer or Cush immed/shortly after flood (or at time of Eber/Hud, Peleg or Abram), tongues confused ("confusion").
-> Indian version: a grt tree grew upto heaven, angering Brahma, who cut off its branches and threw them down. From each branch grew a sep wata tree that gave humanity another sep lang. (Ref: B Walker.)
-> Indian: Tower of Shambhala (valley). Men built a fortress, then a city on white island in the Gobi sea? (A Tomas, P Kolosimo, [cp B Stewart].)
-> Hittite version: Ullikummi, let him ascend to heaven, tall as the sky, comparable with Atlas, like a tower. (Ref: Lehman, Larousse.)
-> Iranian version: Cai Caous reared a city & palace of grt splendor, garisoned by genii, endeavoured to take heaven by escalade, destroyed by angel of god; builds palaces on Mt Elbruz, pride, his ambition is to conquer the sky. Ecbatana. (Ref: G Massey, Larousse, Herodotus.)
-> Arab versions: [Musa/Soloman]/Sheddad ben Ad a mighty man builds Ad/Urem/city of pillars, destroyed by 2nd flood. Bab el-Mandeb catastrophe. Pharaoh/Haman builds lofty brick tower. (Ref: Brugsh-Bey, Cavendish, Acknowl: T Jantsang, Sadowsky, S Deyo/R Schmidt, Berlitz.)
-> Phoenician version: Baal builds palace after defeating Yamm. (Ref: Larousse.)
-> Babylonian version (Nebuchadnezzar): Birs-Nimrud Ziggurat of Nebo (god of writing) at Borsippa (tongue tower) near Babylon built by a former king 42 ages before Nebuchadnezar, etc. Hanging Gardens. (Ref: G Jeffries/eys, Readers Digest.)
-> Akkadian: "To their strong tower, in the night, a complete end he [Enlil] made In his anger, a command he also poured out: to scatter abroad was his decision He gave a command their counsels to confuse ... their course he stopped. (A Alford.)
-> Sumerian versions: "In those days the land Shubur (East), the place of plenty, of righteous decrees, Harmony-tongued Sumer (South), the great land of the "decrees of princeship," Uri (North), the land having all that is needful, The land Martu (West), resting in security, The whole universe, the people in unison, To Enlil in one tongue gave praise." (Acknowl: "Sharrukin".)
-> Sumerian Version: Ziggurats built to bring gods of heaven down. Temple of Nippur. (Acknowl: Scorpion/M Walker/J Campbell.)
-> Chinese versions: Chihyu aspired to position of Shangti/lord of high, corrupted humans to support his rebelion, lord established a barrier between Heaven & Earth. In middle or on edge of lake someone - "Yu most certainly" - built a tower. Pagodas.
-> Japan: Izanagi & Izanami built a great palace on the island of Onogorojima, (Flem-Ath).

-> Greek versions: Aloeidae gigantes Ephialtes & Otus stack Mt Pelion on Mt Ossa in order to climb to heavens. The Titan Atla(n)s son of Libya, (upholder of vault of heaven,) invented theory of the spheres, studied the stars from/and built shrine/temple in patttern of the spheres. (Ref: C Cook/Pears.)
-> Rome: built on top of older Janicula/Janiculum & Saturnia [Golden Age] 2 cities on either side of the flood [Enoch & Babel]. (A Hislop.)
-> Sci Fi version: Star Gate [name Celtic], 7/8 chevrons. (Acknowl: TV, Up Hutt scifi club.)

-> Egypt: Grt Pyr missing cap stone? King's son of Cush.
-> Egypt/Arab/Grk/Josephus: Surid built 2 pyrs before flood. 1st Thoth/Hermes set up 2 columns in Siriadic land before flood, one of brick & one of stone to survive fire or flood [pre-flood Enoch/Janiculum & post-flood Babel/Saturnia].
-> Tanzanian version: An ancient king built a tower of Iron into the heavens, tumbled down - "rust". (Acknowl: P Schmidt/Miami Herald/Jack Wheat.)
-> African vers: an old woman accidentally strikes the high god on his foot with her pestal, causing him to retreat back into the heavens, separating the link between heaven and earth forever. The old woman gathers her children about her, and together, they build a high tower constructed entirely of pestles (ironically the very thing that severed heaven from earth in the first place). The tower was almost complete. All that was needed was a single pestle to reach the gates of heaven, but not a single pestle remained in the whole land, all had been used up, and so the tower remained incomplete. Then the old woman had a bright idea, and ordered the the bottom pestle be removed so it could be placed on the top, and of course, the towers collapsed, proving once and for all that mankind, is incapable of ever reaching heaven (Acknowl: comparative-religion.com, cotterell).
-> Yoruba: 1st/4th king Shango (ldr of grt ferocity) lived in a palace of brass.
-> Rwanda: strife between sons of Kazikamuntu accts for dispersal of men into diff tribes, (Cotterell).
-> Kabyle, Algeria: Achimi came to village built by the 1st men (Cotterell).

-> Maori version: Whare (house) in middle of fished-up fishe's back.
-> Samoan version: A man set himself to build a hse of grt stones, to last forever, but he couldn't get it finished the sun went rnd so fast, at last the "Itu or Atua" caused creeper to grow, with this the man made noose caught sun, then he built the house. People of the tree were scattered. (Refs: G Massey, A Cotterell.)

-> [British Columbia?] version: [flimsy structure to sky people?] (Ref: Mysteries book.)
-> Nth Amer: "The beasts who up to this time had spoken but one language, could no longer understand each other, and in confusion fled away ...." (Ref: L Spence.)
-> Mesoamerican versions: Votan builds tower after flood. Family of giants near Puebla built pyramid, height almost 180 feet, presumption offended gods who sent fire (fiery rain) from heaven on pyramid. The giant Xelhua (who escaped fl by going to top of mtn) builds huge tower (step pyr/zacauli at Cholula) designed to reach sky after flood. (Ref: Fitzgerald-Lee, RA Anderson, P Kolosimo, Popul Vuh.)

-> Sth Amer vers: The Chamacoco tried to climb into the sky up a huge tree. (Refs: Pears, Z Sitchin.)
-> Aymara: after the great flood strangers attempted to build a great city on the lake at Titicaca. (Flem-Ath.)

Where it says God came down to see the Tower, the Hebrew case/sense is humourous.

Cro-Magnons were hunters and "giants" like Nimrod, (compare: Sumerians were (Combe-)Capelid).

Possibility that the vitrified remains of tower of Babel are contemp/synchronous with the floor of fused glass bottom of all strata of Mesopotamian archaeological mine shafts?

Possible name connections I came up with for Nimrod/Nebrod are: Namri (a people/place around those parts in Assyrian times), Narmer (1st king united Egypt), Nimirud ([Ningishzida &/or Ningirsu]), Enmerkar (1st king of 1st Uruk dynasty), Mt Nimush (or Nisir, landing place of Baylonian ark), Nor Mard (Armenian), [mt Nemrut], or Nabiru (epithet Marduk).

Hunters/(Archers):
- Biblical version: Nimrod mighty hunter (of men/wild animals, against Lord)/[archer].
- Naram-sin bull horned helmet, bow.
- Geb.
- Saggitarius. Orion.
- Ull. Odin's/wild hunt/host.
- Herne the Hunter. Herla.
- Cro-Magnon.
- Moa hunters.

Shin(e)ar/Shin(g)ar:
S(h)umer/Sumer(ia); Dzungaria; C(h)inar; Jebel Sinjar (Yezidis); Shangrila; Senjirli (Samal); Senir (Hermon/Anti-Lebanon); [Senkereh] (Egypt); ... (Al Jazirah);


Where:
According to our/my associate's research, most accounts as to the location of the fabled Tower of Babel have placed it in Babylon (Babylonia is now the south of Iraq), or in nearby Borsippa. A more recent popular theory reckons Eridu/Nunki to be the site. However some say it is not known by any one where the T o B was, &/or we think there are conflicting reports that place the tower near the fabled mountain(s) of Ararat (Nakhicevan/Medzamon), which is plausible since this is near the legendary resting place of the great ark of Noah?

(Inter-connections):

(1.) Babel/Babylon:
The reason for this of course is that Babel is referred to as Babylon throughout the Bible, such as being near Borsippa, except when discussed allegorically as second Babylon (Rome).
David Down says Babylon ziggurat is the largest one in Babylonia.
The name Babel or Babylon according to us/my assoc seems similiar to the name Byblos (bible/papyrus; tho more correctly Gebal).
Babylon was supposed to have been built by the god Marduk. Babylon was depicted at the center of the known world in ancient clay maps. The Babel name and catastrophe seem similar to the Bab-el-Mandeb name and catastrophe of Arab myth. Rohl places the original Babel / Nunki as being at Eridu and not Babylon.
Now according to us/my co-author his theory is that Babel which was after the great flood, was the equivalent of Enoch city before the flood. Why? one reason is because the Book of Enoch has Babel before the flood.
Some believe that Babel, or Babylon (and the Hanging gardens), is located on the site of Eden spoken of in the Bible.

(2.) Borsippa:
Borsippa according to us certainly cannot be ruled out as a good possible location for The Tower of Babel, because of (a) the name given to the nearby city of Babylon, (b) the meaning of “Tongue Tower”, (c) the name Birs-Nimrud, (d) Nebuchadnezzar‘s inscription statement, and (e) the vitrification traces.
The names of Sippar and Borsippa may/not be related.

(3.) Eridu/Urdu:
Eridu’s name is thought to be connected with the preflood city of Irad or Jared. Eridu is pictured as the center of world in one myth. However the researcher L A Waddell dubiously claims, that there was an older Eridu/Urda at Carchemish.
There was a counterpart of Eridu (&/or the Erythrean sea) in the west as the Erythrea city in Spain (&/or the Atlantic being called the Eythrean sea in ancient times). Eridu may or may not be connected with the names Urartu, Ararat, Aratta, (Akkad was called Urdhu & Euphrates river was called Urudtuv (compare Eridanus / Jordan).)
My associate goes on to say that he thinks there was an Edin at / by or near Eridu [~Nod?], (~ the one faught over by Lagas & Umma?). Eridu was built on apsu by Ea.
The names Eridu, Uruk, etc are thought by some to share the same root/element/syllable. Rohl reckons that the original Babel / Nunki was actually Eridu not Babylon.
The lake/sea/river that the anc Tower of Babel was built near or beside in some acounts may in fact be the Persian Gulf.

(4.) Nunki // Unuk:
My co-author says he has a theory that Babel was after the flood, and is the equivalent to Enoch city before the flood, the book of Enoch suggesting that Babel was before the flood; Then he goes on to say that Nunki resembles Unuk / Enoch.
Just like Janicula / Janiculum vaguely resembles Enoch. But Erech / Uruk is usually supposed to be Enoch//Unuk. There are claims made by Rohl as to Babel / Nunki really being Eridu and not Babylon.

In Genesis there are 2 separate accounts mentioning Babel, one in ch 10 and other one in ch 11, which everyone rightly or wrongly assumes are refering to the same thing. Tho there is a vague possibilty that the 2 genesis accounts not necessarily even be connected?
The seeming correspondence of the genesis 11 account city names Babel, Erech & Accad (+ Shinar) with the city names of Babylon, Uruk and Agade/Akkad (+ Shumer) in anc Babylonia would seem to bind/tie the location(s) to this region.

(1.) Babel/Babylon: see above.

(2.) Erech/Uruk:
Post flood Erech is supposed to be the same as pre-flood Enoch.
My assoc goes on to say that he thinks source/s say that classical Haran or Edessa / Urfa was also called Orchoe.
The land of Accadia was Uri-ki in Sumerian, which is perhaps the origin of modern day Iraq, rather than it being from Uruk / Erech.
The names Eridu, Uruk, etc are thought by some to share the same root or syllable or element.

(3.) Agade/Accad/Akkad:
The actual location of the ancient city of Akkad is uncertain to say the least, and according to my assoc still remains a mystery to this day, a mystery that is even being debated as we speak. However from what other researchers have indicated from their research they feel that like myself, that the city of Akkad was possibly Sippar, or rather the twin half of the city located on the opposite side of the river (Sepharva-im plural/dual).
Tho when compared to modern cities of today, Agade/Akkad could be Baghdad (Pekod?), although orthodox etymology of the latter may suggest that this is not true. The land of Accadia was Uri-ki in ancient Sumerian.

Now the four cities of Nimrod in Shinar, may possibly match five cities said to exist before the flood given in some text as Nunki/Eridu, Sippar, Shurupak, Larak, and Badtabira, (also compare with 4 Rivers of Eden).

(1.) Nunki: see above.

(2.) Eridu: see above.

(3.) Sippar:
My associate goes on to say that he thinks that some authors claim that akkad city was Sippar, or the half / twin located on the other side of the river (Sepharvaim). Names of Sippar and Borsippa may/not be connected.

The seven or eight cities (depending on interpretation or translation) of Nimrod in seem to match the seven cities found in other myths, and apparently compare with/to the 7 hills of Rome, the seven sages, the seven Cainite gens, the 7 stage ziggurats, and/or the eight kings in power before the great flood of Sum k lists.

Nimrod is corresponded by some to any/all of:
Enmerkar/Gilgamesh (Uruk), Sargon (Akkad), Hammurabi (Babylon); Asshur/Ashur/Assur (Assyria); Ninus (Nineveh).

The 4 or 3 (dep on bib transl) cities of Assyria are disputed whether built by Nimrod or Asshur depending on bibl translation.

(1) Resen:
May perhaps be the city of Larissa said to have been built by Nimrod?






Joseph's Famine

-> Judaeo-Xtian version: Joseph/Paneah vizier during 7 yrs plenty/storage and then 7 yrs world drought/famine.
-> Hittite version: Telipinu disappeared, trees withered, springs dried up, famine crept over world.
-> Phoenician versions: Mot slays Baal, 7 yrs drought/sterility. Salem & Sahar huge appetites, spend 7 yrs amoung crops/pasture while food accumulates in barns. Danel puts 7 yr curse on earth. Drought Keret (2 wives, 7 sons). (Ref: A Millard, Larousse, Hutchinson.)
-> Yemeni version: . (Ref: G Jeffreys/ies.)
-> Assyrio-Babylonian version: Epic of Gilgamesh "7 yrs drought ... have you saved grain ... I have saved grain ... for 7 yrs". Atrahasis epic ".... Let the fig tree be cut off from the people; in their bellies let vegetables be wanting. Above let Adad make scarce his rain....[there then followed 7 harsh yrs/periods/series of famine.]" "Would that famine had wasted the world rather than the flood." "In later Sumerian as in old Babylonian writings flood and deluge are sent by the gods along with equally catastropic visitations of plague, drought and famiine." Descent of Ishtar (dry, dusty, vizier, 7 gates/judges), on earth springs of fertility ran dry, Ea secured her release by means of a brilliant eunuch which captivated the heart of the mistress of infertility & death. (Refs: NK Sandars, A Tomas, A Alford, Cotterell.)
-> Sum-Akk: 12 yrs drought/famine during late Guti dyn/period [prob not jose's one unless 12 is for doubled 6?].
-> Iranian versions: During the reign of Afrasiyab, king of Turan, over Persia, it did not rain for 8 years. Drought betw Anau 2-Susa 2.
-> Indian versions: Indra vs Vritra/drought. Once the earth was deprived of moisture, Ganges washing only sky, land filled with ashes, to put an end to this terrible drought ... sought to bring the Ganges out of heaven. [12 yrs famine priest Viswa-mitra]. (Ref: E Sykes, Larousse.)
-> China: In his [Ch'en T'ang's] reign China suffered from seven years of famine, shortly before that of Egypt (H Hoeh.)
-> Chinese version: Huangti brought down Pa/dryness who stopped wind & rain, Pa couldn't go back, continued to spread drought, people suffered grtly. (Ref: Larousse.)

-> Egyptian version: 7 yrs drought during Djoser's reign. 7 empty years Mentuhotep 4 (11th dyn, or 12th?) Perhaps cp 2 droughts supposedly between end of last ice age and 1st Egyptian dynasty. 7 cows Hathor. 7 ears corn Isis [Virgo]. A king of 9th dyn was Kaneferre (Chenephres?), a famine in his reign. Unas famine scenes.
-> Ethiopian: "the country that Anayer had come from had been afflicted by 7 yrs of famine (Hancock).
-> Bambara version: Faro (vs Teliko/desert wind) came to earth after long period of drought during which most living things died? (Ref: M Jordan.)
-> Yoruba: Ifa left earth whereupon famine descended.
-> Rhodesian: "then Mwuetsi sickened: rain didn't fall, plants withered, streams ran dry, animals and people died."

-> Greek versions: abduction of Persephone, life shrivels & dies, dry summer, grain stored in silos, Demeter wanders earth. "During the 7 yrs that followed not a drop of rain fell in Thera, & every tree on the isl, except 1, withered & died." Some see a similarity betw Jose & Thales.
-> Evolutionist versions: Egyptian wheat found in Lake Dwellings built on dried up lake shores. Geological period (lost name) when most seas considerably dried up.

-> Peru: deluge followed by a famine (tho this could also/alt be the lack of food after flood).

-> Toltec: Tollan stricken by drought & then famine, all rivers and wells dry up, grainaries invaded by vermin. (Pears.)
-> Mexico: 4th age great famine prevailed (DA MacKenzie.)
-> Huron Indian vers: Tsenta made life poss on earth by defeating the Great Frog which had swallowed all the (deluge) waters and returning them to the rivers and valleys.
-> Cherokee: Sun-goddess hated people and cursed them with a great drought (Flem-Ath.)


- Judaeo-Xtian version: Joseph & Potiphar's wife. Jesus tempted by Devil.
- Mesopotamian versions: epic of Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh turns down Ishtar. Descent of Ishtar (dry, dusty, vizier, 7 gates/judges, on earth springs of fertility ran dry), Ea secured her release by means of a brilliant Eunuch which captivated the heart of the mistress of infertility & death. (Sandars, Massey.)
- Phoenic: Aqhat refuses to give bow to the goddess (tho not quite the same), (Larouse).
- Combabus solicited by [Syria-Dea?] (Lucian, G Massey.)
- Classical: chaste Virbius spurned love of women, Aphrodite stung by his scorn, disdained stepmother Phaedra, she falsely accused him to his father, sea-god sent bull from waves (G Frazer.)
- Egyptian version: "the tale of two brothers" (Bata and Anpu's wife, date 6th dyn/mid kdm?), (Keller, .)
- Amerind: Akaiyan & Nopatsis wife [also even with a Benjamin parallel], (L Spence).

The orthodox establishment places Jose in hyksos times (15th/16th dyn), while Rohl's "new chronology" places Joseph in 12th (or 11th?) dyn.

12th dyn is too late for Joseph who was only 3rd after Abram (generations in between Abe to Jose were only 2) who was only (1)400 yrs after flood just after extreme longevity, at beginnings of history.

Joseph and Moses can't both be so close together re (11th)/12th/(13th) dyn(s).

The Egyptians attached special significance to the ideal age of 110 yrs, which is the age Joseph died at.

Shechem is founded in the time of Jacob in bible (except for anachronistic mention in Abraham's time). The town is mentioned in the 12th dyn of Egypt, meaning Jacob must come before (or contemp with) 12th dyn.

Asenath (~Arsinoe???) elements may be Aso/Isis/(Sais), Neith?

Various possible elements Potiphar:
p-, Put/Buto/Bata/Ptah, Pharaoh/Phra/p(e)r-/Af-Ra, Har/Horus, Ra.

Joseph has been variously compared with Osar-siph (Sayce), Peteseph (Cheremon), Inyotef (Rohl?), Djoser (B Walker), Souphis (Hoeh), and/or [(bay/bey) ~ ya-seph ~ irsu ~ (Yuya)].

Given the clear proof (above) that Joseph's famine really was world-wide as bible says (contrary to seeming opinion), Joseph must correspond with a period/date in Egyptian history that has a global atmosphere such as the 4th dynasty not like [15/16 &/or 12/11].

(Verses imply united kingdom and not 2 or more contemp ks/dyns as some theorise?)

A certain officer Ra-hotep [Hotep-ra?] of ca 3rd dyn was chief priest of On, and leader of warriors of the monarch.
The name and offices are vaguely similar to either/both the biblical Potiphera priest of On whose daughter Joseph married, and/or to the officer Potiphar captain of the royal guard whose wife tried to get Joseph to lie with her. (Could famous Rahotep's wife Nefert/Nofret "beautiful/good" actually be Potiphar's wife or the mother of Asenath? Tradition would have it that the name of Potiphar's wife was Zuleika/Zelicah [compare Queen Dalukah?])
Other names also/alt similar are Hotep-dif 2nd dyn priest,
Ptah-hotep 5th dyn, (some would add Djedefre).

The bent pyramid attributed to time of about Sneferu (3/4 dyn) could represent the 7 yrs plenty and 7 yrs scarcity. (Bent pyr connected with: 3.5 pi (half of 7), St Joseph, Joseph's canal.) Other hitherto theories were that it (&/or Meydum pyr) was due to disaster/rain/quake, or [dual/Seth] (A Alford.)
(Less likely, perhaps Joseph was even entombed in bent pyramid (explaining why Sneferu allegdedly had 2 or 3 pyramids?) and the rough hewn tunnel hacked thru masonry is from Moses removing his bones???)

Anc Egyptian feudal period (4-15 dyn) may be connected with Joseph's state.

Also/alt, king Pepy/Phiops (6th) dynasty was a centenarian like Joseph & Moses. Djedi the 4th dyn magician lived 110 yrs.

Philitis the shepherd of 4th dyn might be Hebrews, as a people rather than person?
Hebrews were captive shepherds [of Egyptian records/traditions?] not (Hyksos) king shepherds.

Gos(h)en (cp Gozan)/Gesem (LXX/Sept): Kessan (Artapanus):
Faqus/Phacussa/Qesem (Rohl), Feshn (kh/f intchge), Sesen (s/k, sh/kh intchge), Goseir (n/r intchge), Casius, Giza/Gizeh (cp Gaza), Gosu/Cusae ("too far south"), Gesy/Qus, Kush/Kesh, Kahun.

(Joseph sold for money a type of Jesus sold for money.)

Abraham ~ Uenephes/Semenptah (1st dyn) :
- (famine -> plagues);
Jacob ~ Nynetjer/Necherophes (2nd dyn) :
- (Shechem ~ Shem-Re????, "terror");
Joseph ~ (betw Zoser to) Sneferu (3/4 dyn) :
- (famine Zoser?, bent pyramid, Rahotep, global);
Moses ~ 12th dyn :
- (12 springs, slave workers?, brick buildings, temple Atum, new kdm/dyn/king, giant?, ....)