Wednesday, June 06, 2007

Lost Lands - part 1: Punt

Punt:
Punon/Pinon (Edom, Num 33:42), Punjab, Phoenicia (came from the Erythrean sea), Punic, Pondo (sth Africa), Pontus, king Punda(rika) ("lotus"), Pontifex, Pon(a)pe/Pohnpe (Nan Matal/Nan Modal, [Pompeii/Pompey?]), Pul ("African", Isa 66:19), P(h)ut (Hittite -nt- ?), river Po, Spain/Hispania, ha saponi.

Consider/context:
- artefacts:
statue erected in Punt; terraces/terraced mountain.
- fauna/animals:
ivory, donkey/ass, fish, monkeys/apes/[baboons], panther/[leopard].
- ethnology/race/hair:
wavy-straight hair, steatopygus/large/enormously fat [cross between Andamese & Yap/Caroline], dark skinned, White/nth Semitic/Caucasoid.
- plants/flora/trees/vegetation:
myrrh, (frank)incense, balsam, pine incense, spices, coconut palms.
- geography/distance/direction/duration:
Asia, Red Sea/Suez/Indian Ocean, east, sunrise, Nile harbour of Thebes (return), seagoing ships, original home of the gods/[Egyptians].
- names/language:
Punt/Puanit/Pwenet, queen Eti/Ari, chief/prince/[king] Perehu/Paruah/Parihu, To-neter/Neter-to (divine/god's/holy land),
- gods:
Hathor, Bes.
- time:
18th dyn, 11th dyn, 6th dyn.

3 most most likely candidates not ruled out of listed names is Ponpe, Punjab/punda?, Phoenicia-Punon?

Either more than 1 Punt, or Punt a continent, or products not indigenous/native to Punt but from trade, or also includes expedition to Khenthenofer in Africa (circumnavigated; khoisan/pygmy).

Bes (Bek? or) name might be Bar? nature like Tiki.

Ponpe (&/or Indo-/Poly-/Mela-nesia) has in common with Punt:
- terraces (Kolosimo), coconuts (Paxton), race (cross Andaman-Yap, Huxley), 2 races (Malay & White "Oceanic" race, Kolosimo), name Punt/Ponpe, name Metaranimu/Metalanim/Nan Madol ~ Neter-to?, east/Asia, Bes/Tiki, jade/greenstone ("green gold"?), archaeological (Punt) civilisation artefacts.

Picture is they (started from qoseir to) went to Ponpe then, having ship full of products, decided to return to Nile port of Thebes rather than have to transport over land from qoseir, so circumnavigated Africa/Khenthennefer confounding extra expedititon together (unless canal of sesostris around then)?

"Punt" can't be (only) Africa/elsewhere (and not [also] elsewhere/Africa), but
"Punt" must (both) be elsewhere/Africa and also Africa/elsewhere because/since:
(1) some goods/descriptions almost def could not have been found in Africa (not "everything they procured could be found in Africa");
(2) there seems to be a couple of (now) "only-African" things (and return to Nile port indicates they must have circumnavigated africa anyway unless canal around then);
(3) the goods are not specificly/clearly (undeniably/indisputably/undoubtedly) stated to have come from (in) "Punt" (& not Khenthennefer/Africa)?

(horn of/tropical) Africa:
- doesnot have/unknown:
name (except sth Pondo), wavy-straight hair (not curly/woolly), race (only like cross betw andamese & yap, not negroid), east/sunrise/asia (except perhaps Horn of), archaeological (Punt) civilisation artefacts,
- (only) has/is:
khenthennefer, from qoseir to nile port, ivory, palms, coconuts(?), baboon/monkey/ape, leopard, giraffe, steatopygus, copper/gold.

My sources say it is not really known how long Hatshepsut's expedition took but some connect with 3 yr Solomon/Hiram voyage to Ophir//Tarshish. (Nechos 3 yrs was with # time duration stops.) Source says expedition was concluded just before the 9th yr of Hatshepsut. (Someone on a net/web forum said they think they may have read somewhere (ie dubious/unverified) that the expedition was 2 yrs?)

Childress says Ponape fire pit ashes have been carbon dated to only 900 yrs old (1000 ad) "... (and) suggested that the basalt rocks used to build the city came from ...."
However that dating is only based on one ash sample.
(I not overly respecting of orthodox dating which have been shown to be wrong/unlikely in many cases, tho usually the dates usually too old.)
Ponape/Pohnpei is freq called "ancient" (and megalithic/legend/underwater.)
Furthermoreover, Childress in his book also says (a little after the above) that theroluminescence dated Ponape pottery shards are at least 2000 yrs old "this pushes back the date by more than 1000 yrs".

Punt as Ponpe contributes to solving a number mysteries at same time incld those of: polynesian origins/history, ponpe mystery, racial origins (negritos), punt mystery.

Acknolws:
Charles Berlitz (Mysteries fr forgoten worlds), David Hatcher Childress (lost cities of anc Lemuria & the pacific),
Bey (Egypt und the Pharaohs), Clayton (chronicle of the pharaohs), Velikovsky (Ages in Chaos), "Sharrukin".





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